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Category: Science
If you measure something often enough, it becomes science
Given the ionization chamber’s tiny currents and the huge resistors required to turn them into voltages, reviewing the thermal noise I generally ignore seems in order…
The RMS noise voltage of an ordinary resistor:
vn = √ (4 kB T R Δf)
The constants:
kB – Boltzman’s Constant = 1.38×10-23 J/K
T – temperature in kelvin = 300 K (close enough)
Mashing them together:
vn = √ (16.6x10-21 R Δf)
vn = 129x10-12 √ (R Δf)
For a (generous) pulse current of 20 fA, a 10 GΩ resistor produces a mere 200 μV, so wrap a gain of 100 around the op amp to get 20 mV. An LMC6081 has a GBW just over 1 MHz, giving a 10 kHz bandwidth:
vn = 129x10-12 √ (10x109 10x103) = 1.3 mV
Which says the noise will be loud, but not deafening.
A 100 GΩ resistor increases the voltage by a factor of 10, so you can decrease the gain by a factor of ten for the same 20 mV output, which increases the bandwidth by a factor of ten, which increases the noise by a factor of … ten.
Ouch.
With the same gain of 100 (and therefore 10 kHz bandwidth) after the 100 GΩ resistor, the output increases by a factor of ten to 200 mV, but the noise increases by only √10 to 4 mV.
The LMC6081 has 22 nV/√Hz and 0.2 fA/√Hz input-referred noise, neither of which will rise above the grass from the resistor.
It’s a good thing I have a pretty deep parts stock, as one of the caps didn’t fit into its holes at all.
The Russian CI-3BG glass tube, according to the datasheet and discussion on MightyOhm, is sensitive to gamma and beta radiation, so it should serve as a simple cross-check on my ionization chamber results. It’s not clear the C8600 is applying the correct voltage to the CI-3BG tube, but it probably doesn’t make much difference; the supply is so feeble that there’s no way to actually measure the results.
A closer look at the CI-3BG suggests the active volume lies inside that spiral-wrapped section between the white insulators:
Russian CI-3BG Glass Geiger Tube – detail
In round numbers, that section is 6 mm long and 3 mm OD. Figuring the ID at 2.5 mm, that’s a volume of 30 mm3 = 0.030 cm3. That’s maybe 1/7300 of the ionization chamber volume, so, (handwaving) assuming roughly equal sensitivity, the chamber should report three orders of magnitude more pulses than this little thing.
It’s mildly sensitive to a radium-dial watch and perks up when a watch hand lines up along the spiral-wrapped volume. Given that the radium decay sequence spits out betas and no gammas, the (scaled) count may be a bit higher than the ionization chamber produces, but there are so many other imponderables that it might not matter in the least.
Feeding the output voltage into the ‘scope, with AC coupling to strip off the DC bias, produces this:
Darlington 12k load – multiple
Those cute little spikes seem to be gamma ray ionization events: they are always positive-going, there are no similar negative-going pulses, they occur irregularly at a few per second with occasional clusters, and generally seem about like random radioactive events. The picture shows a particularly busy interval; mostly, nothing happens and the baseline voltage wobbles around in a low frequency rumble.
For what it’s worth, the shielding around the circuit completely eliminates not only 60 Hz interference, but everything else, too: astonishingly good results from a fairly simple layout.
Taking a closer look at one pulse:
Darl 12k – single detail
(Vigorous handwaving begins)
The tallest spikes are typically 20 mV above the baseline, corresponding to peak output current of 20 mV / 12 kΩ = 1.5 µA and a chamber current of 1.5 µA / 100×106 = 15 fA.
They’re generally 5 ms wide, which is orders of magnitude longer than the actual ion generation time, but the area under that spike should be more-or-less proportional to the area under the actual impulse.
If you grant that and agree those pulses look mostly triangular, their integral is:
1/2 x 15 fA x 5 ms = 40 fA·ms = 40 aC
That’s “a” for “atto” =10-18 = a billionth of a billionth = hardly anything at all.
Indeed, seeing as how one coulomb contains 6.2×1018 electron charges, that pulse represents 250 ion pairs, at least assuming a zero-current baseline.
Gamma rays arrive with various energies, produce ionization trails of various lengths, and don’t necessarily traverse the entire chamber, so the pulses have various heights & widths; you can see smaller pulses sticking up out of the grass in the first scope shot. Assuming all those average out to five “big” pulses every second, the chamber collector electrode passes 200 aC/s into the transistor base → 200 aA → 0.20 fA. At 1 fA per 100 µR/h, that’s 20 µR/h of gamma background.
Working from the other end of the scale, a bit of searching shows that 1 R produces 2.08×109 ion pairs in 1 cm3 of dry air at STP. The ionization chamber dimensions give the can’s volume:
π x 4.52 x 3.5 = 220 cm3
So assuming a somewhat unreasonably large pure-gamma dose of 10 µR/h in that volume will produce:
10x10-6 x 2.08x109 x 220 = 4600x103 ion pairs/h = 1300 ion pairs/s
That’s about five “big pulses” per second, under the stack of assumptions thus far, and seems absurdly close.
An old NIST report on Calibration of X-Ray and Gamma-Ray Measuring Instruments says that 1 R/s (that’s per second, not per hour) produces a current of 300 pA/cm3 in an “ideal ionization chamber”. Scaling that down to 10 µR/h and up to the chamber volume gives an average current of 180 aA. That’s absurdly close, too.
Note bene: Because 1 C = 6.241×1018 ion pairs, 2.08×109 ion pairs is 333×10-12 C and, if you do that in one second, you get 333 pA of current from your ideal 1 cm3 ionization chamber. Those two approaches should be equally close.
(Vigorous handwaving ends)
Again, I don’t trust any of the values to within an order of magnitude and surely made a major blunder in running some of the numbers, but the results seem encouraging.
The coaxial cable’s capacitance could explain why the pulses look like triangles: the capacitance integrates a rectangular current pulse into a voltage ramp. The cable measures 200 pF and the scope input adds 13 pF, but let’s call it 200 pF across the 12 kΩ emitter resistor. Raising the voltage across that capacitance by 20 mV in 2 ms requires a current of:
200x10-12 x (20 mV / 2 ms) = 2 nA
Dividing that by 100×106 gives a chamber current pulse of 20×10-18 = 20 aA: three orders of magnitude less than the original guesstimate. That suggests the (handwaved) 15 fA chamber current, amplified by the absurd gain of two stacked Darlingtons, easily drives the cable capacitance. Something else causes the ramp.
The chamber itself has 10 pF capacitance, but it’s not clear to me how (or if) that enters into the proceedings. The entire collection of ions appears in mid-air, as if by magic, whereupon the +24 V chamber bias voltage draws them (well, the positive ones, anyway) to the transistor base without appreciable voltage change.
Perhaps the triangle represents the actual arrival of the ions: a few at first from the near side of the trail, a big bunch from the main trail, stragglers from the far side, then tapering off back to the baseline.
That’s definitely more than anyone should infer from a glitch produced by a pair of transistors…
At this instant, neither of us realized the other was present:
Starling-0145
Despite what it looks like, the blackbird (maybe a starling) passed just beyond arm’s reach directly ahead of the bike at eye level:
Starling-0167
And away!
Starling-0173
At 60 frames per second, that’s 466 ms of elapsed time.
Stepping through the video, frame by frame, the bird’s wings flap at a consistent three frames per stroke = 50 ms/stroke = 20 stroke/s = 1200 stroke/min. A bit of rummaging produces a study suggesting a starling’s normal rate is 10 stroke/s, so the critter had the throttles firewalled at war emergency power.
It makes my pedal pushing seem downright inconsequential…
I soldered up the simplest possible “electrometer amplifier” at Squidwrench, based on Charles Wenzel’s writeup:
Electrometer Amp – MPSA14 NPN Darlington
It’s an MPSA14 NPN Darlington transistor, with the base soldered directly to the Victoreen 710-104 ionization chamber collector pin. The flying leads connect to an ordinary digital voltmeter set to read voltage, rather than current, so that you see the voltage created by the transistor’s collector current through the meter’s input resistance.
The MPSA14 data sheet specifies DC current gain hFE > 10 k for low collector currents, with a graph suggesting it might be somewhat larger. Alas, all those are for “ordinary” currents, not the countably finite number of electrons coming from an ionization chamber, but let’s assume 10 k is close.
I used a Radio Shack 22-805 DMM, set to auto-ranging DC volts. The specs say the input “impedance” is 10 MΩ for all voltage ranges, so let’s run with that, too.
With 24 V (actually 24.6 V) applied to both the chamber (through the red wire) and the DMM (through the yellow wire), it read 250 mV: a mere 25 nA through the 10 MΩ meter resistance.
Assuming a transistor gain of 10 k, that’s a chamber current of 2.5 pA.
The ionization chamber specs say it produces 5 pA at 0.5 röentgen/hour → 100 mR/h produces 1 pA.
No, I do not believe the Squidwrench Operating Table is bathed in gamma radiation at 250 mR/h.
I should wipe down the transistor to see if that reduces the external leakage, then try a few others, but obviously the signal will remain lost in the noise.
We replaced the DMM with an oscilloscope and 10 MΩ probe, which conclusively demonstrated that unshielded high-impedance circuits make excellent 60 Hz receivers.
Dragorn of Kismet gave me a handful of identical mystery chips that might date back to the 1980s. They’re surprisingly large and covered with contacts:
Mystery IC – overview
There are no logos or identification anywhere on the chip. The back side is blank silicon.
The visible patterns don’t suggest anything obvious:
Mystery IC – detail 1
The metallization layers aren’t particularly intricate:
Mystery IC – detail 2
Surely there’s something tucked under the top metallization; I have neither the materials nor inclination to dissolve the thing one layer at a time.
I gave a sampling to our Larval Engineer, who says she may turn them into fancy jewelry. I’m sure the solder bumps contain lead, but …