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Electrical & Electronic gadgets

  • More AAA-to-AA Alkaline Adapters

    More AAA-to-AA Alkaline Adapters

    Having a handful of not-dead-yet AAA alkalines and a bunch of LED blinkies built for AA alkalines, a pair of adapters seemed in order:

    AAA-to-AA Alkaline Adapters - installed
    AAA-to-AA Alkaline Adapters – installed

    The blinkies need a somewhat wider base than they’d get from a pair of AAA alkalines, so it’s not quite as dumb as it may seem.

    In any event, the positive terminal comes from a brass rod:

    AAA-to-AA Alkaline Adapters - brass terminal
    AAA-to-AA Alkaline Adapters – brass terminal

    Nobody will ever see the fancy Hilbert Curve infill around the brass:

    AAA-to-AA Alkaline Adapters - end view
    AAA-to-AA Alkaline Adapters – end view

    In this application, they’ll go from not-dead-yet to oh-it’s-dead faster than AA cells, so I can watch how the blinkies work with lower voltages.

  • Long-gone Labeling

    Long-gone Labeling

    These appeared while I was extricating the 3-axis positioner from an old project:

    Migrated felt-tip pen labels
    Migrated felt-tip pen labels

    I’m reasonably sure those labels started with blue ink from my all-time favorite Ultra-Fine-Point Sharpie markers on address labels covered with ordinary matte tape. Fourteen years on, the X, Y, and Drive legends are pretty much indistinguishable.

    Nothing lasts …

  • Discrete LM3909: Blue LED Radome

    Discrete LM3909: Blue LED Radome

    Dropping a simplified ping-pong ball radome for a Piranha RGB LED atop a discrete LM3909 on the AA alkaline cell holder:

    Discrete LM3909 Radome - AA alkaline
    Discrete LM3909 Radome – AA alkaline

    The solid model has screw holes for the lid and the revised LED spider:

    Astable Multivibrator - Alkaline AA Base - radome - solid model
    Astable Multivibrator – Alkaline AA Base – radome – solid model

    The RGB LED needs only two wires, as the LM3909 circuit can blink only one LED. I tried all three colors, but only blue and green justify the LM3909 hairball; red can get along with the astable circuit.

    The LED wires connect across a 1 MΩ resistor serving as a mechanical strut between the 9.1 kΩ resistor on the left and the 10 Ω ballast resistor on the right.

    Fresh alkaline cells at 3.0 V put 3.3 V across the blue LED with a 37 mA peak current. Older cells at 2.3 V produce 2.9 V at 15 mA. Dead cells at 1.9 V still fire the LED with 2.7 V at 4.2 mA, although the flash is barely visible in ordinary room light.

    The lovely blue ball looks better in person!

    The OpenSCAD source code as a GitHub Gist:

    // Astable Multivibrator
    // Holder for Alkaline cells
    // Ed Nisley KE4ZNU August 2020
    // 2020-09 add LED radome
    /* [Layout options] */
    Layout = "Build"; // [Build,Show,Lid,Spider]
    /* [Hidden] */
    CellName = "AA"; // [AA] — does not work with anything else
    NumCells = 2; // [2] — likewise
    Struts = -1; // [0:None, -1:Dual, 1:Quad] — Quad is dead
    // Extrusion parameters
    /* [Hidden] */
    ThreadThick = 0.25;
    ThreadWidth = 0.40;
    HoleWindage = 0.2;
    function IntegerMultiple(Size,Unit) = Unit * ceil(Size / Unit);
    function IntegerLessMultiple(Size,Unit) = Unit * floor(Size / Unit);
    Protrusion = 0.1; // make holes end cleanly
    inch = 25.4;
    //- Basic dimensions
    WallThick = IntegerMultiple(3.0,ThreadWidth);
    CornerRadius = WallThick/2;
    FloorThick = IntegerMultiple(3.0,ThreadThick);
    TopThick = IntegerMultiple(2.0,ThreadThick);
    WireOD = 1.5; // battery & LED wiring
    WireOC = 4;
    Gap = 5.0;
    // Cylindrical cell sizes
    // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battery_sizes#Cylindrical_batteries
    CELL_NAME = 0;
    CELL_OD = 1;
    CELL_OAL = 2;
    // FIXME search() needs special-casing to properly find AAA and AAAA
    // Which is why CellName is limited to AA
    CellData = [
    ["AAAA",8.3,42.5],
    ["AAA",10.5,44.5],
    ["AA",14.5,50.5],
    ["C",26.2,50],
    ["D",34.2,61.5],
    ["A23",10.3,28.5],
    ["CR123A",17.0,34.5],
    ["18650",18.8,65.2], // bare 18650 with button end
    ["18650Prot",19.0,70.0], // protected 18650 = 19670 plus a bit
    ];
    CellIndex = search([CellName],CellData,1,0)[0];
    echo(str("Cell index: ",CellIndex," = ",CellData[CellIndex][CELL_NAME]));
    //- Contact dimensions
    CONTACT_NAME = 0;
    CONTACT_WIDE = 1;
    CONTACT_HIGH = 2;
    CONTACT_THICK = 3; // plate thickness
    CONTACT_TIP = 4; // tip to rear face
    CONTACT_TAB = 5; // solder tab width
    ContactData = [
    ["AA+",12.2,12.2,0.3,1.7,3.5], // pos bump
    ["AA-",12.2,12.2,0.3,5.0,3.5], // half-compressed neg spring
    ["AA+-",28.2,12.2,0.3,5.0,0], // pos-neg bridge
    ["Li+",18.5,16.0,0.3,2.8,5.5],
    ["Li-",18.5,16.0,0.3,6.0,5.5],
    ];
    function ConDat(name,dim) = ContactData[search([name],ContactData,1,0)[0]][dim];
    ContactRecess = 2*ConDat(str(CellName,"+"),CONTACT_THICK);
    ContactOC = CellData[CellIndex][CELL_OD];
    WireBay = 6.0; // room for wiring to contacts
    //- Wire struts
    StrutDia = 1.6; // AWG 14 = 1.6 mm
    StrutSides = 3*4;
    ID = 0;
    OD = 1;
    LENGTH = 2;
    StrutBase = [StrutDia,StrutDia + 2*5*ThreadWidth, // ID = wire, OD = buildable
    FloorThick + CellData[CellIndex][CELL_OD]]; // LENGTH = base is flush with cell top
    //- Holder dimensions
    BatterySize = [CellData[CellIndex][CELL_OAL] + // cell
    ConDat(str(CellName,"+"),CONTACT_TIP) + // pos contact
    ConDat(str(CellName,"-"),CONTACT_TIP) – // neg contact
    2*ContactRecess, // sink into wall
    NumCells*CellData[CellIndex][CELL_OD],
    CellData[CellIndex][CELL_OD]
    ];
    echo(str("Battery space: ",BatterySize));
    CaseSize = [3*WallThick + // end walls + wiring partition
    BatterySize.x + // cell
    WireBay, // wiring bay
    2*WallThick + BatterySize.y,
    FloorThick + BatterySize.z
    ];
    BatteryOffset = (CaseSize.x – (2*WallThick +
    CellData[CellIndex][CELL_OAL] +
    ConDat(str(CellName,"-"),CONTACT_TIP))
    ) /2 ;
    ThumbRadius = 0.75 * CaseSize.z;
    StrutOC = [IntegerLessMultiple(CaseSize.x – 2*CornerRadius -2*StrutBase[OD],5.0),
    IntegerMultiple(CaseSize.y + StrutBase[OD],5.0)];
    StrutAngle = atan(StrutOC.y/StrutOC.x);
    echo(str("Strut OC: ",StrutOC));
    LidSize = [2*WallThick + WireBay + ConDat(str(CellName,"+"),CONTACT_THICK), CaseSize.y, FloorThick/2];
    LidScrew = [2.0,3.8,7.0]; // M2 pan head screw (LENGTH = threaded)
    LidScrewOC = CaseSize.y/2 – CornerRadius – LidScrew[OD]; // allow space around screw head
    //- Piranha LEDs
    PiranhaBody = [8.0,8.0,8.0]; // Z = heatsink fins + body + lens height
    PiranhaPin = 0.0; // trimmed pin length beyond heatsink
    PiranhaPinsOC = [5.0,5.0]; // pin XY distance
    PiranhaRecess = PiranhaBody.z + PiranhaPin/2; // minimum LED recess depth
    BallOD = 40.0; // radome sphere
    BallSides = 4*StrutSides; // nice smoothness
    BallPillar = [norm([PiranhaBody.x,PiranhaBody.y]), // ID
    norm([PiranhaBody.x,PiranhaBody.y]) + 3*WallThick, // OD
    StrutBase[OD] + PiranhaBody.z]; // height to base of chord
    echo(str("Pillar OD: ",BallPillar[OD]));
    BallChordM = BallOD/2 – sqrt(pow(BallOD/2,2) – (pow(BallPillar[OD],2))/4);
    echo(str("Ball chord depth: ",BallChordM));
    //———————-
    // Useful routines
    module PolyCyl(Dia,Height,ForceSides=0) { // based on nophead's polyholes
    Sides = (ForceSides != 0) ? ForceSides : (ceil(Dia) + 2);
    FixDia = Dia / cos(180/Sides);
    cylinder(r=(FixDia + HoleWindage)/2,h=Height,$fn=Sides);
    }
    // Spider for single LED atop struts, with the ball
    module DualSpider() {
    difference() {
    union() {
    for (j=[-1,1]) {
    translate([0,j*StrutOC.y/2,StrutBase[OD]/2])
    rotate(180/StrutSides)
    sphere(d=StrutBase[OD]/cos(180/StrutSides),$fn=StrutSides);
    translate([0,j*StrutOC.y/2,0])
    rotate(180/StrutSides)
    cylinder(d=StrutBase[OD],h=StrutBase[OD]/2,$fn=StrutSides);
    }
    translate([0,0,StrutBase[OD]/4]) // connecting bars
    cube([StrutBase[OD]*cos(180/StrutSides),StrutOC.y,StrutBase[OD]/2],center=true);
    cylinder(d=BallPillar[OD],h=BallPillar[LENGTH],$fn=BallSides);
    }
    for (j=[-1,1]) // strut wires
    translate([0,j*StrutOC.y/2,-Protrusion])
    PolyCyl(StrutBase[ID],StrutBase[OD]/2,6);
    for (n=[-1,1]) // LED wiring
    rotate(n*90)
    translate([StrutOC.x/3,0,-Protrusion])
    PolyCyl(StrutBase[ID],StrutBase[OD],6);
    translate([0,0,BallOD/2 + BallPillar[LENGTH] – BallChordM]) // ball inset
    sphere(d=BallOD);
    translate([0,0,BallPillar.z – PiranhaRecess + BallPillar.z/2]) // LED inset
    cube(PiranhaBody + [HoleWindage,HoleWindage,BallPillar.z],center=true); // XY clearance
    translate([0,0,StrutBase[OD]/2 + WireOD/2 + 0*Protrusion]) // wire channels
    cube([WireOD,BallPillar[OD] + 2*WallThick,WireOD],center=true);
    }
    }
    //– Overall case with origin at battery center
    module Case() {
    union() {
    difference() {
    union() {
    hull()
    for (i=[-1,1], j=[-1,1])
    translate([i*(CaseSize.x/2 – CornerRadius),
    j*(CaseSize.y/2 – CornerRadius),
    0])
    cylinder(r=CornerRadius/cos(180/8),h=CaseSize.z,$fn=8); // cos() fixes undersize spheres!
    if (Struts)
    for (i = (Struts == 1) ? [-1,1] : -1) { // strut bases
    hull()
    for (j=[-1,1])
    translate([i*StrutOC.x/2,j*StrutOC.y/2,0])
    rotate(180/StrutSides)
    cylinder(d=StrutBase[OD],h=StrutBase[LENGTH],$fn=StrutSides);
    translate([i*StrutOC.x/2,0,StrutBase[LENGTH]/2])
    cube([2*StrutBase[OD],StrutOC.y,StrutBase[LENGTH]],center=true); // blocks for fairing
    for (j=[-1,1]) // hemisphere caps
    translate([i*StrutOC.x/2,
    j*StrutOC.y/2,
    StrutBase[LENGTH]])
    rotate(180/StrutSides)
    sphere(d=StrutBase[OD]/cos(180/StrutSides),$fn=StrutSides);
    }
    }
    translate([BatteryOffset,0,BatterySize.z/2 + FloorThick]) // cells
    cube(BatterySize + [0,0,Protrusion],center=true);
    translate([BatterySize.x/2 + BatteryOffset + ContactRecess/2 – Protrusion/2, // contacts
    0,
    BatterySize.z/2 + FloorThick])
    cube([ContactRecess + Protrusion,
    ConDat(str(CellName,"+-"),CONTACT_WIDE),
    ConDat(str(CellName,"+-"),CONTACT_HIGH)
    ],center=true);
    translate([-(BatterySize.x/2 – BatteryOffset + ContactRecess/2 – Protrusion/2),
    ContactOC/2,
    BatterySize.z/2 + FloorThick])
    cube([ContactRecess + Protrusion,
    ConDat(str(CellName,"+"),CONTACT_WIDE),
    ConDat(str(CellName,"+"),CONTACT_HIGH)
    ],center=true);
    translate([-(BatterySize.x/2 – BatteryOffset + ContactRecess/2 – Protrusion/2),
    -ContactOC/2,
    BatterySize.z/2 + FloorThick])
    cube([ContactRecess + Protrusion,
    ConDat(str(CellName,"-"),CONTACT_WIDE),
    ConDat(str(CellName,"-"),CONTACT_HIGH)
    ],center=true);
    translate([-CaseSize.x/2 + WireBay/2 + WallThick, // wire bay with screw bosses
    0,
    BatterySize.z/2 + FloorThick + Protrusion/2])
    cube([WireBay,
    2*LidScrewOC – LidScrew[ID] – 2*4*ThreadWidth,
    BatterySize.z + Protrusion
    ],center=true);
    for (j=[-1,1]) // screw holes
    translate([-CaseSize.x/2 + WireBay/2 + WallThick,
    j*LidScrewOC,
    CaseSize.z – LidScrew[LENGTH] + Protrusion])
    PolyCyl(LidScrew[ID],LidScrew[LENGTH],6);
    for (j=[-1,1])
    translate([-(BatterySize.x/2 – BatteryOffset + WallThick/2), // contact tabs
    j*ContactOC/2,
    BatterySize.z + FloorThick – Protrusion])
    cube([2*WallThick,
    ConDat(str(CellName,"+"),CONTACT_TAB),
    (BatterySize.z – ConDat(str(CellName,"+"),CONTACT_HIGH))
    ],center=true);
    if (false)
    translate([0,0,CaseSize.z]) // finger cutout
    rotate([90,00,0])
    cylinder(r=ThumbRadius,h=2*CaseSize.y,center=true,$fn=22);
    translate([0,0,ThreadThick – Protrusion]) // recess around name
    cube([0.6*CaseSize.x,8,2*ThreadThick],center=true);
    if (Struts)
    for (i2 = (Struts == 1) ? [-1,1] : -1) { // strut wire holes and fairing
    for (j=[-1,1])
    translate([i2*StrutOC.x/2,j*StrutOC.y/2,FloorThick])
    rotate(180/StrutSides)
    PolyCyl(StrutBase[ID],2*StrutBase[LENGTH],StrutSides);
    for (i=[-1,1], j=[-1,1]) // fairing cutaways
    translate([i*StrutBase[OD] + (i2*StrutOC.x/2),
    j*StrutOC.y/2,
    -Protrusion])
    rotate(180/StrutSides)
    PolyCyl(StrutBase[OD],StrutBase[LENGTH] + 2*Protrusion,StrutSides);
    }
    }
    translate([0,0,0])
    linear_extrude(height=2*ThreadThick + Protrusion,convexity=10)
    mirror([0,1,0])
    text(text="KE4ZNU",size=6,spacing=1.20,font="Arial:style:Bold",halign="center",valign="center");
    }
    }
    module Lid() {
    difference() {
    hull()
    for (i=[-1,1], j=[-1,1], k=[-1,1])
    translate([i*(LidSize.x/2 – CornerRadius),
    j*(LidSize.y/2 – CornerRadius),
    k*(LidSize.z – CornerRadius)]) // double thickness for flat bottom
    sphere(r=CornerRadius/cos(180/8),$fn=8);
    translate([0,0,-LidSize.z]) // remove bottom
    cube([(LidSize.x + 2*Protrusion),(LidSize.y + 2*Protrusion),2*LidSize.z],center=true);
    for (j=[-1,1]) // wire holes
    translate([0,j*WireOC,-Protrusion])
    PolyCyl(WireOD,2*LidSize.z,6);
    for (j=[-1,1])
    translate([0,j*LidScrewOC,-Protrusion])
    PolyCyl(LidScrew[ID],2*LidSize.z,6);
    }
    }
    //——————-
    // Build it!
    if (Layout == "Case")
    Case();
    if (Layout == "Lid")
    Lid();
    if (Layout == "Spider")
    if (Struts == -1)
    DualSpider();
    else
    cube(10,center=true);
    if (Layout == "Build") {
    rotate(90)
    Case();
    translate([0,-(CaseSize.x/2 + LidSize.x/2 + Gap),0])
    rotate(90)
    Lid();
    if (Struts == -1)
    translate([CaseSize.x/2,0,0])
    DualSpider();
    }
    if (Layout == "Show") {
    Case();
    translate([-CaseSize.x/2 + LidSize.x/2,0,(CaseSize.z + Gap)])
    Lid();
    }

  • Discrete LM3909: Blue LED Waveforms

    Discrete LM3909: Blue LED Waveforms

    The circuitry and instrumentation is essentially the same discrete LM3909 as before:

    LM3909 - blue - test setup
    LM3909 – blue – test setup

    With a few minor tweaks:

    • Blue LED, forward voltage 2.56 to 2.97 V
    • 24 Ω R1
    • One Q2 current mirror transistor driving Q3

    With a pair of fresh AA alkaline cells producing 3.1 V (not the NiMH Duracells you see in the picture), the blue LED blinks brightly.

    The 610 mV peak voltage across R1 shows the LED starts at 25.4 mA:

    LM3909 blue - 3.1 V - R1 24 ohm
    LM3909 blue – 3.1 V – R1 24 ohm

    The capacitor reaches 1 V, then goes about 150 mV into reverse charge during the flash (note the different horizontal scales):

    LM3909 blue - 3.1 V - C1 V
    LM3909 blue – 3.1 V – C1 V

    The Darlington version of Q1 seems to do a decent job of keeping the cap out of reverse charge. A Shottky diode would add a few hundred mV, but I doubt there’s anything nasty going on inside the cap as it stands.

    The blue LED has a forward drop of 2.97 V at 20 mA, so I’m surprised the voltage across it hits 3.1 V at 25 mA:

    LM3909 blue - 3.1 V - LED V
    LM3909 blue – 3.1 V – LED V

    Very little of the voltage appears across Q3, the driver transistor:

    LM3909 blue - 3.1 V - Q3 coll
    LM3909 blue – 3.1 V – Q3 coll

    With a pair of nearly dead alkaline cells for a 2.0 V supply, the LED current peak drops to 4.6 mA:

    LM3909 blue - 2.0 V - R1 24 ohm
    LM3909 blue – 2.0 V – R1 24 ohm

    The LED lights brightly, then fades away exactly like you’d expect from that waveform.

    The cap still charges to about 1 V and stays well above 0 V during the (much longer) flash:

    LM3909 blue - 2.0 V - C1 voltage
    LM3909 blue – 2.0 V – C1 voltage

    The voltage across the LED now reaches only 2.7 V, which is substantially higher than the 2.0 V battery supply and exactly why the LM3909 existed:

    LM3909 blue - 2.0 V - LED voltage
    LM3909 blue – 2.0 V – LED voltage

    Q3 continues to saturate, although you can see the effect of the decreased base drive during the flash:

    LM3909 blue - 2.0 V - Q3 coll
    LM3909 blue – 2.0 V – Q3 coll

    The blue LED won’t light at 1.3 V, but still gives out a weak flash at 1.7 V, so I’d say the tweaked LM3909 circuitry works reasonably well.

  • Alkaline AA Astable vs. RGB and Yellow LEDs

    Alkaline AA Astable vs. RGB and Yellow LEDs

    A fresh pair of alkaline AA cells at 3.2(-ish) V can’t light a Vf = 3 V blue LED with any authority, but I laid out an astable multivibrator circuit with a Piranha RGB LED to see how the colors looked:

    Astable AA Alkaline - build test
    Astable AA Alkaline – build test

    Lighting all three LEDs at once doesn’t make much sense, although I did try it just for the amusement. Spoiler: red wins, even with more-or-less equal currents.

    Mounting the hairball on an AA alkaline holder looks better:

    Astable AA Alkaline - RGB LED test
    Astable AA Alkaline – RGB LED test

    Red being the only LED color making any kind of sense meant the Piranha was overqualified for the job, so I replaced all that clutter with a simple 5 mm yellow LED:

    Astable AA Alkaline - yellow
    Astable AA Alkaline – yellow

    It’s shatteringly bright at 20 mA from fresh alkalines at 3.2 V and remains visible down to 1.8 V.

    The original circuit schematic / layout doodle:

    Astable wiring layout - Piranha RGB test
    Astable wiring layout – Piranha RGB test

    No surprise in any of this, as it’s why the discrete LM3909 circuitry happened, but it’s nice to have a simple LED atop some alkalines for show-n-tell. If, of course, show-n-tell events ever happen again …

  • DSO150: USB Serial Output

    DSO150: USB Serial Output

    Taking all those pictures of the DSO150 screen reminded me it has a data dump function: press the V/Div and ADJ buttons to squirt configuration, measurements, and trace data from the TX pad on the main board, just in front of the red-black power wires hot-melt glued in place:

    DSO150 USB serial adapter - interior
    DSO150 USB serial adapter – interior

    The picture shows the “before” stage, while I was figuring out where to carve another hole in the case.

    NB: The 113-15001-111 DSO150 firmware version includes the serial output option, so you won’t need third-party firmware. Similarly, current PCBs bring the serial pins to neatly labeled header pads. You should refer to the JYETech DSO150 / DSO Shell product page for the details.

    After all the cuttin’ and filin’ was done, it looked like this:

    DSO150 USB serial adapter - exterior
    DSO150 USB serial adapter – exterior

    The power switch on the back of the case (top of the picture) disconnects the lithium cell from the charge controller board (now tucked behind the battery) to eliminate any trickle current discharge. Charging the battery thus requires turning that switch on and turning the scope off with its own power switch (along its front edge). Capturing trace data requires having both switches on (duh), whereupon the scope’s normal operating current convinces the charge controller that the cell hasn’t reached full charge. Turn the scope off and, most likely, the controller will tell you the cell is fully charged.

    An intro blurb squirts from the port at 115200 in good old 8N1 format when you turn the scope on:

    DSO Shell
    JYE Tech Ltd.
    WWW.JYETECH.COM
    FW: 113-15001-111

    Pressing the V/Div and ADJ buttons dumps the trace data:

    VSen,0.5V
    Couple,DC
    VPos, -2.02V
    Timebase,0.2s
    HPos,00362
    TriggerMode,NORM
    TriggerSlope,Rising
    TriggerLevel,  2.02V
    RecordLength,01024
    Vmax,  2.85V
    Vmin,  0.24V
    Vavr,  0.87V
    Vpp,  2.61V
    Vrms,  1.03V
    Freq, 0.441Hz
    Cycl, 2.266s
    PW, 0.231s
    Duty, 10.2 %
    SampleInterval,00008ms
    00000,0000000000, 0.8518688
    00001,0000000008, 0.5273474
    00002,0000000016, 0.5273474
    00003,0000000024, 0.5476300
    00004,0000000032, 0.5476300
    00005,0000000040, 0.5476300
    << snippage >>
    01015,0000008120, 0.8113037
    01016,0000008128, 0.8315863
    01017,0000008136, 0.8315863
    01018,0000008144, 0.8315863
    01019,0000008152, 0.8315863
    01020,0000008160, 0.8315863
    01021,0000008168, 0.8315863
    01022,0000008176, 0.8518688
    01023,0000008184, 0.8518688

    It’s all in neatly comma-separated-value format, so you can slam it into a spreadsheet and have your way with it. Utilities also exist to capture the data, extract the values, and send them directly to GNUplot, etc.

    Like so:

    DSO150 test image
    DSO150 test image

    If I expected to do a lot of that, I’d boldify the traces and embiggen the text, all of which is in the nature of fine tuning.

    It’s hard to reproduce the beauty of the DSO150’s display, though:

    DSO150 test image
    DSO150 test image

    The DSO150 remains pretty good for being the worst oscilloscope I’m willing to use …

  • Discrete LM3909 vs. DSO150 Scope

    Discrete LM3909 vs. DSO150 Scope

    Although I’m a big fan of multi-channel scopes and Hall-effect current probes, a dirt-cheap single-trace oscilloscope can get you quite a ways to the goal:

    LM3909 - DSO150 test setup
    LM3909 – DSO150 test setup

    That’s a genuine JYETech DSO150 powered by an 18650 lithium cell and a boost converter set to 9 V. Make sure you get a genuine DSO150 from an authorized seller, rather than one of the myriad knockoffs; it doesn’t cost much more and tends to reward the right folks.

    Anyhow, battery power means you can connect it directly across components to measure what would otherwise be a differential voltage:

    LM3909 - Darl Q1 3x Q2 - 1.5 V - R1 V - DSO150
    LM3909 – Darl Q1 3x Q2 – 1.5 V – R1 V – DSO150

    That’s the voltage across R1, the 39 Ω LED ballast resistor in the discrete LM3909 circuit running from a 1.5 V supply. Divide the 314 mV peak by 39 Ω to get 8 mA of LED current.

    The voltage across C1, the timing and boost capacitor, looks like this:

    LM3909 - Darl Q1 3x Q2 - 1.5 V - C1 V - DSO150
    LM3909 – Darl Q1 3x Q2 – 1.5 V – C1 V – DSO150

    So the cap adds half a volt to the supply in order to put 2.0 V across the LED, which accounts for the relatively low current; the green LED has a forward drop of about 2.2 V at 20 mA and 1.9 V at µA-level current.

    For completeness, the voltage across the LED:

    LM3909 - Darl Q1 3x Q2 - 1.5 V - Green LED V - DSO150
    LM3909 – Darl Q1 3x Q2 – 1.5 V – Green LED V – DSO150

    So, yup, the LED really does see 2.0 V. I love it when the numbers work out.

    Crank the supply to 3 V and see this across R1:

    LM3909 - Darl Q1 3x Q2 - 3.2 V - R1 V - DSO150
    LM3909 – Darl Q1 3x Q2 – 3.2 V – R1 V – DSO150

    The LED current is now 1.23 V / 39 Ω = 33 mA.

    The capacitor just barely enters reverse charge:

    LM3909 - Darl Q1 3x Q2 - 3.2 V - C1 V - DSO150
    LM3909 – Darl Q1 3x Q2 – 3.2 V – C1 V – DSO150

    Pop quiz: what voltage to you expect to see across the LED?

    I’ll leave further investigation to your imagination, but for low-frequency analog work, you can do worse than a DSO150.