Generic Sony NP-FS11 Lithium-Ion Packs

Sony no longer offers the NP-FS11 Li-Ion batteries required for my DSC-F505V camera, so I’ve been using “generic” replacements for quite some time. My experience has been mixed: some batteries provide a reasonable amount of run time, others provide almost none.

Feeding the appropriate keywords into Froogle gives you a range of battery suppliers, with offerings from, as of this writing, $3 to $103. Perhaps not surprisingly, the image for a $70 battery exactly matches the one on my desk that cost perhaps $15 a few years ago… although I’m certain that the actual battery you’d get wouldn’t match that picture.

I just bought three NP-FS11 batteries from the usual low-buck Hong Kong eBay supplier: six bucks apiece, shipped halfway around the world. The eBay listing claimed 1800 mAh, which seemed aggressive, and the batteries sport a 3900 mAh label, which is flat-out impossible.

Frankly, I didn’t expect much and here’s the discharge test graph to show I wasn’t disappointed. I used a 1-amp rate as a reasonable guess at the camera’s peak draw, although that might be a touch high for a continuous discharge.

Generic Sony NP-FS11 Li-Ion Batteries

Generic Sony NP-FS11 Li-Ion Batteries

The top blue curve is from a two-year-old literally no-name battery (no logo, no nothing!) that still provides decent run time; it’s the one matching that $70 battery. It provides about 1100 mAh, reasonably close to its 1300 mAh rating.

The middle curves, black and purple, are two of the new cells that provide about 900 mAh: half the as-listed-on-eBay capacity, 25% of the absurd label value. Their very low terminal voltage during most of the discharge says that these won’t provide much run time at all.

The green curve piddling off on the bottom is the third new cell, which is obviously defective. As I said, I didn’t expect much and I certainly wasn’t surprised.

The red curve is an old and completely defunct batteries.com offering that never provided good service.

Here’s another plot of three successive charge-discharge cycles for just the three new batteries. The first curves (at 1.0 A) correspond to what you see above, the remaining two sets (at 0.5 A) are the next two cycles. Batteries G and I have improved, H remains a dud.

MaxPower NP-FS11 Battery Tests

MaxPower NP-FS11 Battery Tests

Given the varied offerings on the Web, I believe that there is no way to ensure you’re getting a known-good battery from a reputable supplier. It’s absolutely certain that price does not correlate with quality; the ones I bought simply establish that low-end offerings are crap.

The purchase was worth it for the amusement value alone; I don’t expect any action from the vendor, although I did send a copy of that graph with some explanatory text. The question is whether I should give them a five-star rating for prompt delivery…

As it happens, there’s enough room to slide a standard CR123A-size cell into the battery compartment. I think a bit of Quality Shop Time applied to a dead NP-FS11 battery case (and the vital Sony “Infolithium” DRM module) will provide a baseplate with all the proper connectors. Perhaps I can conjure up a “battery” containing a single cell of known-good quality?

Primary CR123A cells supply only 3 V, not the 3.6 V the camera really wants, so I can’t use disposable cells.

  1. #1 by randomdreams on 2010-04-01 - 11:39

    Oddly enough, I’m in the process of making a little step-down for an SR44 (1.55V) to use in an old Nikon SLR to replace its mercury battery that cranked out 1.35V for the auto-exposure determination calculations. It needs to be accurate within 0.03v or so, or the calculations are completely out of whack, so I’ve been reading a lot about batteries for cameras.
    Your post doesn’t make me confident about this process.

    • #2 by Ed on 2010-04-03 - 22:11

      to replace its mercury battery

      Nope, can’t have any of that stuff in the environment…

      And you can’t just put a Schottky diode in series, either, because there’s no current involved so it wouldn’t have the proper drop.

      Fooey!

  2. #3 by John Rehwinkel on 2010-04-07 - 12:00

    I had been toying with the idea of replacing the cells in my girlfriend’s camera battery, as they’ve lost a lot of capacity over the years, and the no-name replacement never had much. But, given that it’s apparently a crapshoot anyway, maybe I’ll just buy a handful of third-party batteries and hope to get a decent one or two. I would still be cheaper than buying genuine Canon parts. Alternatively, I can make good on my threat to build an external battery pack that’ll run her camera all day.

    • #4 by Ed on 2010-04-07 - 13:47

      buy a handful of third-party batteries

      One or two apiece from a broad assortment of suppliers… and don’t be surprised when they’re identical under the labels.

      In contrast to these, the two old batteries for my slightly less obsolete DSC-F717 are still going strong. I cannot explain this, other than that the non-OEM battery was (still is!) anomalously good.

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