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Red Laser vs. IR LED Photosensor

As Forrest Mims demonstrated back in the day, LEDs work perfectly well as narrow-band photodiodes with peak sensitivity to slightly shorter wavelengths than they emit. Aiming a red laser at an ordinary IR LED about a foot away generates 800 mV of photovoltage:

Red laser - IR LED detector
Red laser – IR LED detector

The blip comes from the shaft of a small screwdriver falling through the beam.

That’s in photovoltaic mode directly connected to the oscilloscope, but you’d want to run it through a low-gain transimpedance amplifier to get the zero bias photocurrent and a comparator for a clean digital edge. That’s obviously overkill for a simple optical interrupter, but the analog circuitry should come in handy for something else later on.

OK, now I can detect a moving object, trigger a camera, and fire a xenon flash, all under an Arduino’s control…

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5 responses to “Red Laser vs. IR LED Photosensor”

  1. madbodger Avatar
    madbodger

    I’ve used the same trick to measure the light curve from electronic flashes. Here’s one at full power http://www.vitriol.com/images/tech/equipment/microflash/minolta-full.png and the same one at minimum power: http://www.vitriol.com/images/tech/equipment/microflash/minolta-low.png You can see the leading edge (and the burst of noise from the trigger coil) are similar, but at low power, it cuts off abruptly before it really gets going.

    1. Ed Avatar

      Those traces are at least qualitatively similar to what the fancy 10AP photodiode saw with the 250 µF and 1 µF capacitors, which is comforting.

      I’d like to measure the flash current, but the Tek Hall probe bears a prominent warning: “CAUTION CORE NOT INSULATED” and I’m loathe to clamp it around a flash tube lead at 300 V with a 4 kV trigger pulse nearby…

  2. ewf Avatar
    ewf

    Shh! I used an “output” led for programming flash on an embedded sbc sytem, if you sent it the right message after a reset.

    1. Ed Avatar

      Sounds like one of those back doors I keep reading about… you must’a worked for [fzzzt #$%^&* NO CARRIER]

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