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Price Scanner FAIL: Plausible Deniability

I always suspect there’s a reason behind a missing price label on a shelf, so I waved a half-gallon of milk under a nearby price scanner:

Shop-Rite Scanner FAIL
Shop-Rite Scanner FAIL

If you’re thinking that white rectangle doesn’t look like a price, you’re right:

Shop-Rite Scanner FAIL - Warning pop-up
Shop-Rite Scanner FAIL – Warning pop-up

A 10 digit Phone number?

I’m don’t know what a “PPC number” is, although the UPC on the milk carton seems perfectly normal:

Shop-Rite Scanner FAIL - offending bar code
Shop-Rite Scanner FAIL – offending bar code

Admittedly, the number starts with a zero and has 12 digits, so it’s definitely not what the price scanner wants. On the other paw, why is a price scanner not looking for a UPC?

The placard below the display is amusing:

Shop-Rite Scanner FAIL - DCNY Requiring Scanner Accuracy
Shop-Rite Scanner FAIL – DCNY Requiring Scanner Accuracy

Gray’s variant of Hanlon’s Razor: “Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.”

No, I neither asked why the scanners didn’t work nor made a phone call, as I’m old enough to know better.

Comments

11 responses to “Price Scanner FAIL: Plausible Deniability”

  1. davkd Avatar
    davkd

    to be fair that leading zero is “this is a normal retail upc” and most scanners drop it before the host system gets the input (and thus it starts with 4 as far as the computer knows). On PPC I got nothin.

  2. david Avatar
    david

    (and has 11 digits). Entering a phone number is the standard way of locating a “loyalty” account without the physical card (which can change pricing).

    1. Ed Avatar

      Which means anybody without a card can’t do price checks. Maybe I should make that phone call …

      1. david Avatar
        david

        no, you can scan a upc which is (after suppressing the invisible zero) is an 11 digit number starting with 4, or you can scan your loyalty card (and then presumably find out your loyalty price).

        1. Ed Avatar

          I walked up to it, didn’t see anything amiss, waved the milk, and got the error message, so …

          I’m certain it’ll be different on the next milk run!

  3. RL Avatar
    RL

    At ShopRite, PPC is the Price Plus Card that is used for their customer loyalty program. Providing your PPC or phone number is used so you can add digital coupons to your card for use at checkout.

    At the Kingston store, they have a sign saying adding digital coupons is what the scanner is used for. I’ve never tried to use it to check a price, but maybe it can do that, too.

    The bar code on my card looks like a standard 12 digit UPC code. When I enter the number manually, it wants only the first 11 digits and rejects it if I enter all 12 digits.

    1. Ed Avatar

      [smacks forehead] Of course!

      It used to be I’d just walk up to a scanner, wave the thing, and see the price. Now I must identify myself every time before waving the thing to see the price, even when the price doesn’t change based on my identity.

      It’s so easy to grow accustomed to ubiquitous surveillance …

      Thanks for the explanation!

  4. dithermaster Avatar
    dithermaster

    Probably there is an option back at the main screen to bypass the PPC scan

    1. Ed Avatar

      Entirely possible, but that’d be a distinct UI downgrade from the previous version / scanner.

      Bonus points for mounting the scanner where those of us with bifocal / progressive lenses must look at the ceiling to see the display before finding + reading the instructions.

      Double bonus for putting the instructions in medium gray 6 point type on a light gray background. :grin:

  5. macca45 Avatar
    macca45

    Interesting, I scanned the barcode with a scanner app on my iPhone, it read it correctly, so then I asked Google what it corresponded to and it came up with “lactose free milk 2%” from shoprite. BTW I am in Melbourne Australia.

    1. Ed Avatar

      There’s just no way to keep secrets these days! :grin: