Traffic Signal Timing: Jackson Rd at New Hackensack Rd, 2016 Edition

I reported this short cycle time to the Dutchess County DPW, back in September 2015, and got this response:

Thank you for contacting Dutchess County DPW about this matter.  I will ask our Traffic Engineer to review the signal timing at CR 104/CR110 (New Hackensak/Jackson) to see if adjustments can be made.  The primary factors used to set the current signal timing are operational efficiency, safety and Level of Service for motor vehicles.  If there are signal timing adjustments which can achieve these goals and provide for safer passage of bicycles, we will explore those options.  I will also ask our Traffic Engineer to investigate altering the sensitivity of the detector system to detect bicycles.  I will share our findings with you. Thank you again for your comments.

Robert H. Balkind, P.E.
Deputy Commissioner
Dutchess County Department of Public Works

Emphasis mine, of course. Translation: “It’s not going to happen.”

I pinged him a few weeks later:

That review has not been done yet. I will advise you when our investigation is complete.

So, here’s what the signal timing looks like these days…

T = 0.000 s – Green

Jackson at New Hackensack - Signal Timing 2016-06-27 - 0218

Jackson at New Hackensack – Signal Timing 2016-06-27 – 0218

On the positive side, a pair of big long wheelbase recumbents stopped in the middle of the lane seem sufficient to trigger the traffic detector!

T = 3.150 s – Yellow

Jackson at New Hackensack - Signal Timing 2016-06-27 - 0407

Jackson at New Hackensack – Signal Timing 2016-06-27 – 0407

We’re definitely not fast enough off the block; Mary thought she had time for a sip of water. We started rolling less than two seconds after the green appeared, which is as fast as one should enter an intersection around here.

T = 8.000 s – Red

Jackson at New Hackensack - Signal Timing 2016-06-27 - 0698

Jackson at New Hackensack – Signal Timing 2016-06-27 – 0698

T = 13.000 s – Opposing Green

Jackson at New Hackensack - Signal Timing 2016-06-27 - 13 s - rear

Jackson at New Hackensack – Signal Timing 2016-06-27 – 13 s – rear

In round numbers, it takes us about 15 seconds from a cold start to reach the far side of that intersection. I can do it in a bit less, but Mary can’t, even though we’re in pretty good shape for the shape we’re in.

As with NYSDOT’s promises about the signal timing on Burnett Blvd, I’m not holding my breath about DCDPW getting in touch with me about that study; if nothing has changed after ten months, it never will.

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